Review: Ka-Bar Dog’s Head Knife
There is no shortage of information and reviews, both good and bad, floating around the internet about the traditional Ka-Bar combat knife. This is to be expected, as the Ka-Bar has been around for a long time, and since it is generally accepted to be a good quality blade. That being said, it was designed to be a combat knife more so than a survival knife, so it does have some shortcomings as a general-purpose blade. One of the biggest drawbacks to the traditional Ka-Bar design, as well as its imitators, is the stick tang that runs through the stacked leather grip, and the inherent weakness that this tang introduces to the design. In addition, the clip point doesn’t lend itself well to some tasks, the pommel has no provision for attaching a lanyard, and the finger guard extends a fair bit up past the spine of the blade, preventing you from choking up on the blade for fine work. With that being said, the Ka-Bar is an excellent knife, and isn’t necessarily a bad choice for use in the woods, it just isn’t the always the best option out there.
Ka-Bar listened to folks a little while back, and produced a modified version of their 1217 USMC combat knife. The new blade is the 1317 Dog’s Head model, which has a few changes as compared to the 1217. First, the pommel has been changed to a “dog’s head” shape (hence the name) with a lanyard hole- definitely a huge improvement over the original in my opinion. Second, the finger guard has been shortened on the spine side a little bit, making it possible to choke up on the blade. Third, as NC Scout pointed out to me, the clip point seems to have been tamed down and straightened out a little bit over some of the older Ka-Bars, making it more conducive to things like field dressing game. One cosmetic change is that the USMC stamping on the blade and sheath has been replaced by the “Pirate Dog” logo. The 1317 model does maintain the same stick tang, stacked leather handle, 7” blade length, and blood groove as the traditional 1217 Ka-Bar. The sheath, which is a good quality sheath made in Mexico, is also the same as the 1217 sheath, other than the stamping, and is a nice piece of leather for the money. A couple of the things I initially noticed were: the blade was pretty sharp for a factory edge- not as good as an ESEE, but it would shave hair off of my arm without much effort, and also the leather handle was very well constructed- very tight, even, and well shaped. With all of that said, let’s spend a little time performing some simple tasks with it and see how it handles them.
As you can see, the Dog’s Head can chop down a small tree fairly easily. This one was a small poplar around 2 ½” in diameter. Poplar isn’t a really dense wood, but at the same time, this blade isn’t really meant to be used for heavy chopping. I have no complaints over the performance, as it only took me a few moments to cut through it.
Again, poplar isn’t a really dense wood, but it is what I had available in the 20-year-old cutover where these pictures were taken. The Ka-Bar can be batoned through this wood with ease. I also just voided the warranty on it- Ka-Bar takes a dim view of batoning or throwing their blades. Oh well, I didn’t buy it for the warranty, I bought it to use. That being said, Ka-Bar knives are NOT the best thing to baton through wood, you will eventually break it if you do it enough. Will they baton- yes. Should you baton with them if it isn’t needed- probably not.
It took just a few moments to cut a small poplar sapling for a light ridgepole, notch it off on the ends, make a few oak tent pegs, and make a small shelter using a Mil-Tec poncho (Which has been another fantastic piece of gear as far as I’m concerned) I did use small diameter jute twine for tying everything off- for temporary, low-stress applications I like it better than 550 cord- it is light, very inexpensive, and rots away quickly. Also, I can yank the whole poncho down, if needed, without tearing the grommets out, since the jute will break easily. The pommel of the knife made a good hammer to pound the pegs into the ground, and the dog’s head shape kept my hand from trying to ride down over the pommel.
As a side note- if you are in the Southeast, or anywhere with similar forests to what we have here in Central NC, ATACS-FG, which is what this poncho is, is a wonderful camo pattern for Spring, summer, and early fall. A tiny bit of brush added to this shelter and it would have been very unobtrusive.
The Ka-Bar makes short work of stripping the bark off of some dry, dead poplar branches, and shaves some slivers off, in order to provide kindling for a fire. Dry bark from dead poplar makes excellent kindling, if you have yellow poplar in your AO. The Ka-Bar would work just fine with a ferro rod if you strip a little of the coating off of the spine as well, I just didn’t have a ferro rod with me at the time, so I used the Zippo that was in my pocket.
Just for comparison, here is the Dog’s Head Ka-Bar with a few other blades for comparison. From the left the first blade is an Ontario SP-1 that has had the back of the fingerguard removed and lives in a Ka-Bar sheath. Next is the 1317 Ka-Bar, then there is a Buck 119, and on the end an ESEE-3 that always lives on my belt as an EDC blade. Another note on the Ka-Bar- I haven’t used this blade heavily, but so far, the black coating on the blade is holding up very well- that is a non-issue either way for me, but I know it may matter to some of you.
This far from being a comprehensive test or review, but hopefully gave you a little of a feel for what I believe is one of Ka-Bar’s better offerings. Would I choose it if I had to hit the woods with only one knife? No, probably not. Would I lose sleep over having to hit the woods without any other knife? Again, probably not. I personally prefer to carry a small sheath knife all the time (hence the ESEE-3, which I love) along with a bigger blade, such as my Condor Moonshiner (which I also love) when needed. There is also usually a folding knife in my pocket, lately the Ontario RAT-2 in D2. I have been impressed with the Ka-Bar 1317 Dog’s Head, and I believe it is a good, well made, and perfectly serviceable carbon steel blade that comes with a good quality sheath, at a very reasonable price.
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Nice review. Thank you for having some understanding of the subject too.
Thanks for the kind words!
The USMC Ka-Bar is all I carry besides a multi tool and a Swiss Army Knife. I have carried and used these knives since I bought one while in flight school. I call it the “jack of all trades” knife. It will dig, but not nearly as effectively as an E-tool. It will process game, but not as well as a skinning knife. As you have shown, it will do bushcraft and survival chores, but not as well as a Mora Garberg or the like. And it is very effective for last ditch self defense, as has been demonstrated since WWII. It is easily sharpened to a decent edge, and will hold it for a surprisingly long time. As such it is my go to knife in my kit, and I have not found anything else I like better. Thanks for the review.
I think no matter what you choose, you’re going to have some compromises when you choose a knife. It’s just like choosing a rifle, you’re always going to be giving something up on one hand and gaining something on the other. As long as it works for what you use it for and you’re happy with it, what more could you ask?
I would have used the Ka-Bar for skinning a deer for the review if it was deer season, but I figured that wouldn’t be cool during this time of year lol
For those who do like the K-Bar knife, but as the author pointed out, it’s a bit big for smaller tasks…
Ontario Knife Company makes a shorter version of the K-Bar. It’s identified as No. 499
It’s sometimes referred to as a “Pilots knife” or survival knife which sports a saw back spine
and comes with a sheath and stone. The stone is not too impressive but would work in a pinch.
Interestingly it has lanyard holes, (2), on the finger guard, but the pommel is not a “dog head”.
It’s very well made and should serve a long time should the owner season the handle,
and sheath, properly. It’s been mentioned that working paraffin into leather is more desirable
than using an oil type conditioner. The reason being, as the paraffin will weather proof and
provide a more secure grip but will not cause the leather handle to soften and loosen up.
Should the handle soften this would allow the stacked leather to become compromised as rot
could ensue and erode the leather.
Anyway, I found a deal on it over at amazon, a number of years ago, and picked one up.
Thanks for pointing out the 499, I didn’t mention it because I haven’t ever personally used one. I believe NC Scout has talked about one before in one of his older posts. Ontario also makes the SP2, which I believe is the same blade as the 499, but with the kraton handle like the SP1 in my picture. Supposedly the SP1 and SP2 have thicker tangs than the 499 or a Ka-Bar.
Ka-Bar also makes a smaller, scaled down version of their combat knife, I believe it has a 5″ blade instead of 7″ but I can’t remember the model number off the top of my head.
I had not considered the advantages of the change in the shape of the pommel. Some good points made there – Thanks for pointing them out. My old Kabar is the standard round pommel. I do wish there had been a lanyard hole in the design – now there is.
A 7″ blade is a bit large for a wilderness carry knife for our rurals. Desert scrub and mainly hardwood tree species. ‘Battoning wood’ here is borderline abuse of the blade. Cold Steel SRK in original Carbon V is about as large a knife I want to carry.
I actually like the feel of the traditional round pommel better in the hand, but the dog’s head just seems more useful to me. I have seen folks drill diagonal holes into the traditional pommels for a lanyard, but I didn’t care for it personally. The dog’s head pommel worked well pounding tent pegs into the ground. I don’t like to baton wood unless I need to, especially the oak I like to burn, but I also like to make sure that a knife I have will do it.
Condor Knife deal:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373606951282?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
That’s a great deal on that knife, around $20 less than it normally sells for. It might be my favorite of my large knives. The only thing I think would maybe make it a little better would be some checkering on the walnut grips.
One word on the Condor sheaths- the rivet that they attach the hanger with is a weak point, if you carry it a lot it is worth stitching the hanger solid to the sheath. It only takes a few minutes and might prevent loss of the knife. Other than that they are nice leather sheaths
Nice! Mine got confiscated as a youth along with a WWII machete and the brass knuckles with four wolves heads on them.
I do have a throwing knife, skinner, and some Chinese stars, the stars are actually for injuring feet while sticking up out of the ground but they are in need of sharpening severely.
Looking for life hacks of alternate blade sharpening methods.
O/T-disregard Brave browser from earlier post as it is compete and utter slimy egesta. They are fakes and poseurs who don’t give a rip about privacy. I should have known anything based on Google is 100% forces of evil.
You were right, Firefox can be tweaked to be the ultimate privacy browser. Thanks for the tips.